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	<title>Comments on: Players union fights for right to drive bus off cliff</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Feeding the Monster Blog &#8212; In which the author discusses Boston, the Red Sox, the media, and very occasionally popular music. &#187; What - you want more on the Mitchell Report?</title>
		<link>http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/06/22/players-union-fights-for-right-to-drive-bus-off-cliff/#comment-321118</link>
		<dc:creator>The Feeding the Monster Blog &#8212; In which the author discusses Boston, the Red Sox, the media, and very occasionally popular music. &#187; What - you want more on the Mitchell Report?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That&#8217;s all for now. I&#8217;ve written plenty about steroids in the past, including last August, when I wondered why no one was wondering about Roger, and way back in October &#8216;06, when I mocked the press&#8217;s surprise that Clemens had been fingered in he Grimsley affidavit. I also tagged Jason Giambi a gutless punk, ripped into the Players Union for defending the players&#8217; right to destroy their livers, lamented the fact that Jose Canseco seemed to be the only honest guy around, and talked about how Bill James compared steroids to going through a divorce. (Sort of, anyway.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That&#8217;s all for now. I&#8217;ve written plenty about steroids in the past, including last August, when I wondered why no one was wondering about Roger, and way back in October &#8216;06, when I mocked the press&#8217;s surprise that Clemens had been fingered in he Grimsley affidavit. I also tagged Jason Giambi a gutless punk, ripped into the Players Union for defending the players&#8217; right to destroy their livers, lamented the fact that Jose Canseco seemed to be the only honest guy around, and talked about how Bill James compared steroids to going through a divorce. (Sort of, anyway.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Feeding the Monster Blog &#8212; In which the author discusses Boston, the Red Sox, the media, and very occasionally popular music. &#187; Back to the future: The players association, the 2004 offseason, the scariest 3-4-5 combo ever</title>
		<link>http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/06/22/players-union-fights-for-right-to-drive-bus-off-cliff/#comment-99303</link>
		<dc:creator>The Feeding the Monster Blog &#8212; In which the author discusses Boston, the Red Sox, the media, and very occasionally popular music. &#187; Back to the future: The players association, the 2004 offseason, the scariest 3-4-5 combo ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m on the record as calling the Players Association &#8220;full of crap,&#8221; &#8220;moronic,&#8221; and &#8220;power-hungry,&#8221; so I don&#8217;t think my feelings about Gene Orza and crew are all that opaque. But here is another instance where Orza et al were egregiously wrong; unfortunately, many of the players are so convinced everyone else is out to screw them it&#8217;s unlikely anything will ever change&#8230;at least for another couple of decades, when retired players start growing tumors out of their eyeballs and guys on the field wonder if the fight against effective drug testing was really worth it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m on the record as calling the Players Association &#8220;full of crap,&#8221; &#8220;moronic,&#8221; and &#8220;power-hungry,&#8221; so I don&#8217;t think my feelings about Gene Orza and crew are all that opaque. But here is another instance where Orza et al were egregiously wrong; unfortunately, many of the players are so convinced everyone else is out to screw them it&#8217;s unlikely anything will ever change&#8230;at least for another couple of decades, when retired players start growing tumors out of their eyeballs and guys on the field wonder if the fight against effective drug testing was really worth it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Manning</title>
		<link>http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/06/22/players-union-fights-for-right-to-drive-bus-off-cliff/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Manning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 05:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Brighton guy who somehow ended up living in the South, let me be the first to say that while HGH, Deca and Double Deca are undoubtedly all over the game, Paxton Crawford was born in Little Rock, Arkansas.  And what's more, according to reports, he now works on his "family farm."  

Which leads me to believe that he was born and raised on a farm in Arkansas.  

I urge everyone to acknowledge this fact, let it sink in and read the ESPN article again.  

Then vow not to bring up this boob, his story about the clubhouse or his stone-washed jeans to Tek or Wakefield again this season.  

We need to keep winning games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Brighton guy who somehow ended up living in the South, let me be the first to say that while HGH, Deca and Double Deca are undoubtedly all over the game, Paxton Crawford was born in Little Rock, Arkansas.  And what&#8217;s more, according to reports, he now works on his &#8220;family farm.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Which leads me to believe that he was born and raised on a farm in Arkansas.  </p>
<p>I urge everyone to acknowledge this fact, let it sink in and read the ESPN article again.  </p>
<p>Then vow not to bring up this boob, his story about the clubhouse or his stone-washed jeans to Tek or Wakefield again this season.  </p>
<p>We need to keep winning games.</p>
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		<title>By: behindthepen</title>
		<link>http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/06/22/players-union-fights-for-right-to-drive-bus-off-cliff/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>behindthepen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth ... from your previous post ... "I want to make clear that I never heard a single player admit or acknowledge using, I never saw anyone use, I never saw the presence of steroids, and I never heard any member of the Red Sox management or ownership talk about knowledge of a player on the team using" ... you know, you wrote that, but that's pretty much what 90% of the players and managers say too.  None of them, from Schilling to Canseco, have much credibility, and neither does the media on this matter.  If they wanted it gone, then baseball would put an end to it.  But given how pervasive it was, I think we just have to believe they're more afraid of getting someone in trouble than cleaning up the game.  THis is going to go on for a long, long time.

&lt;i&gt;BTP - I'm obviously in a different position from players, management, etc. But I agree with your larger point: there's shared responsibility. I've written before about how the media should have been asking questions back in 96 and 98 and 99 and 01. Right now, though, the players union is uniquely positioned to block more stringent measures -- measures which a lot of owners and management are in favor of -- with the treat of a labor stoppage. There's a difference between turning a blind eye and willfully trying to stand in the way of reform once there's been public acknowledgment of the problem.
- Seth&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth &#8230; from your previous post &#8230; &#8220;I want to make clear that I never heard a single player admit or acknowledge using, I never saw anyone use, I never saw the presence of steroids, and I never heard any member of the Red Sox management or ownership talk about knowledge of a player on the team using&#8221; &#8230; you know, you wrote that, but that&#8217;s pretty much what 90% of the players and managers say too.  None of them, from Schilling to Canseco, have much credibility, and neither does the media on this matter.  If they wanted it gone, then baseball would put an end to it.  But given how pervasive it was, I think we just have to believe they&#8217;re more afraid of getting someone in trouble than cleaning up the game.  THis is going to go on for a long, long time.</p>
<p><i>BTP - I&#8217;m obviously in a different position from players, management, etc. But I agree with your larger point: there&#8217;s shared responsibility. I&#8217;ve written before about how the media should have been asking questions back in 96 and 98 and 99 and 01. Right now, though, the players union is uniquely positioned to block more stringent measures &#8212; measures which a lot of owners and management are in favor of &#8212; with the treat of a labor stoppage. There&#8217;s a difference between turning a blind eye and willfully trying to stand in the way of reform once there&#8217;s been public acknowledgment of the problem.<br />
- Seth</i></p>
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		<title>By: Mister Weebles</title>
		<link>http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/06/22/players-union-fights-for-right-to-drive-bus-off-cliff/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Weebles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing wrong with getting paid for your story.

Hell, I'll tell you my entire life story for fifty seven bucks and a tasty submarine sandwich.

Your in Christ,

Mister Weebles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing wrong with getting paid for your story.</p>
<p>Hell, I&#8217;ll tell you my entire life story for fifty seven bucks and a tasty submarine sandwich.</p>
<p>Your in Christ,</p>
<p>Mister Weebles</p>
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