Comments on: Speaking of Alan Embree… http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Fri, 16 May 2008 19:03:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: The Feeding the Monster Blog — In which the author discusses Boston, the Red Sox, the media, and very occasionally popular music. » Please, god…not Timlin http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-42559 Fri, 18 May 2007 13:58:24 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-42559 [...] Timlin Filed under: Mike Timlin, Hideki Okajima by Seth Mnookin @ 9:55 am Digg Del.icio.us Subscribe to RSS Feed Hideki “Darkman” Okajima continued his otherworldly run yesterday, prompting thisvalentine from Jackie MacMullan. I agree with pretty much everything in there — how can one not have a man-crush on the biggest HO on the team? — except for this shout out to Mike Timlin: “In other years, a prolonged stint for [Timlin] on the disabled list would have been a daily cause for angst, or at least some serious hand-wringing.” It’s not that I don’t like Timlin (although I don’t, particularly) or appreciate what he’s done for the Sox…it’s just that I’ve always thought re-signing Timlin was a mistake. He’s one of the few heart-attack inducing guys in the pen. If his absolute suckitude during last year’s Boston Massacre didn’t give evidence that there’s precious little gas left in his tank, the sheer idiocy of blaming the team’s offense for the Sox’s ‘06 woes demonstrated he’s not, um, the team player he’s always been made out to be. The only Timlin related cause of angst that I’ll have is when he comes off the disabled list. You know I’m right: if last night in the top of the ninth you heard the shuffling strains of “Black Betty” coming through Fenway’s PA…well, you would have been worried. [...] […] Timlin Filed under: Mike Timlin, Hideki Okajima by Seth Mnookin @ 9:55 am Digg Del.icio.us Subscribe to RSS Feed Hideki “Darkman” Okajima continued his otherworldly run yesterday, prompting thisvalentine from Jackie MacMullan. I agree with pretty much everything in there — how can one not have a man-crush on the biggest HO on the team? — except for this shout out to Mike Timlin: “In other years, a prolonged stint for [Timlin] on the disabled list would have been a daily cause for angst, or at least some serious hand-wringing.” It’s not that I don’t like Timlin (although I don’t, particularly) or appreciate what he’s done for the Sox…it’s just that I’ve always thought re-signing Timlin was a mistake. He’s one of the few heart-attack inducing guys in the pen. If his absolute suckitude during last year’s Boston Massacre didn’t give evidence that there’s precious little gas left in his tank, the sheer idiocy of blaming the team’s offense for the Sox’s ‘06 woes demonstrated he’s not, um, the team player he’s always been made out to be. The only Timlin related cause of angst that I’ll have is when he comes off the disabled list. You know I’m right: if last night in the top of the ninth you heard the shuffling strains of “Black Betty” coming through Fenway’s PA…well, you would have been worried. […]

]]> by: JustinShaype http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-723 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:25:32 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-723 It seems like Francona is the only person in North America that can't see that Timlin is cooked. Or maybe it's the classic "Francona sticking with a veteran too long" thing that is both a strength and a weakness. Either way, it's not like Tito has a lot of options in the 'pen; You can only piss with the **** your given, to paraphrase Irvine Welsh. It seems like Francona is the only person in North America that can’t see that Timlin is cooked. Or maybe it’s the classic “Francona sticking with a veteran too long” thing that is both a strength and a weakness.

Either way, it’s not like Tito has a lot of options in the ‘pen; You can only piss with the **** your given, to paraphrase Irvine Welsh.

]]> by: Bill Pratt http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-716 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:19:28 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-716 My mistake, Timlin did pitch 8/20. My mistake, Timlin did pitch 8/20.

]]> by: Bill Pratt http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-715 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:12:30 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-715 There should be no argument that Mike Timlin has been a big and bad part of some stomach punch type losses recently. These losses are a lot easier to remember compared to when he simply does the job he is contracted to perform. In an attempt to remove the rancor or the unjust lying of blame at only one guy’s feet, here is some information (from ESPN.com box scores) from the last 20 games for last one third of the game (RS and RA for Innings 7 through 9 only and the last column is the score after 6). Overall the Red Sox were 6-14. I planned to pull out some insightful analysis after compiling all this but the 6-14 record just killed any motivation. Please post some comments and correct any of my mistakes. Date W/L RS RA Timlin In? After 6 (B-Opp) 8/27 L 0 0 No 3-6 8/26 L 1 3 Yes 2-1 8/25 L 0 1 No 0-5 8/24 W 1 1 Yes 1-0 8/23 W 0 0 Yes 5-4 8/22 L 1 1 No 2-3 8/21 L 1 1 No 0-1 8/20 L 1 1 No 2-3 8/19 L 0 3 No 5-10 8/18 L 0 7 In a Big Way 10-7 8/18 L 1 8 No 3-4 8/16 W 1 0 No 5-4 8/15 L 2 3 Yes 1-0 8/14 L 1 2 No 3-5 8/13 W 4 3 No 7-6 8/12 W 0 1 Yes 7-5 8/11 W 1 2 No 8-0 8/10 L 3 3 Yes 1-2 8/9 L 1 1 Yes 4-3 8/8 L 1 1 No 3-5 There should be no argument that Mike Timlin has been a big and bad part of some stomach punch type losses recently. These losses are a lot easier to remember compared to when he simply does the job he is contracted to perform. In an attempt to remove the rancor or the unjust lying of blame at only one guy’s feet, here is some information (from ESPN.com box scores) from the last 20 games for last one third of the game (RS and RA for Innings 7 through 9 only and the last column is the score after 6). Overall the Red Sox were 6-14. I planned to pull out some insightful analysis after compiling all this but the 6-14 record just killed any motivation.

Please post some comments and correct any of my mistakes.

Date W/L RS RA Timlin In? After 6 (B-Opp)
8/27 L 0 0 No 3-6
8/26 L 1 3 Yes 2-1
8/25 L 0 1 No 0-5
8/24 W 1 1 Yes 1-0
8/23 W 0 0 Yes 5-4
8/22 L 1 1 No 2-3
8/21 L 1 1 No 0-1
8/20 L 1 1 No 2-3
8/19 L 0 3 No 5-10
8/18 L 0 7 In a Big Way 10-7
8/18 L 1 8 No 3-4
8/16 W 1 0 No 5-4
8/15 L 2 3 Yes 1-0
8/14 L 1 2 No 3-5
8/13 W 4 3 No 7-6
8/12 W 0 1 Yes 7-5
8/11 W 1 2 No 8-0
8/10 L 3 3 Yes 1-2
8/9 L 1 1 Yes 4-3
8/8 L 1 1 No 3-5

]]> by: gmschmidty http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-712 Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:05:02 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-712 Seth- It's not Mike Timlin's fault. He's making his pitches, he's just not getting lucky. He doesn't want to point fingers here, but the offense really just needs to start supporting the bullpen a little more...UGH Ever thus to deadbeats, TIMLIN. Seth-

It’s not Mike Timlin’s fault. He’s making his pitches, he’s just not getting lucky. He doesn’t want to point fingers here, but the offense really just needs to start supporting the bullpen a little more…UGH

Ever thus to deadbeats, TIMLIN.

]]> by: maineiac http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-709 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:27:09 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-709 Delcarmen? Foulke? Papelbon for 2 innings? Bueller, Bueller, anyone? I thought Tito being a stats man would have put anyone but Timlin into that situation. Beltre and Ibanez both had great recent numbers against Timlin. I think half of Red Sox nation was predicting the outcome, when Tito put Timlin in. Delcarmen?
Foulke?
Papelbon for 2 innings?
Bueller, Bueller, anyone?

I thought Tito being a stats man would have put anyone but Timlin into that situation. Beltre and Ibanez both had great recent numbers against Timlin. I think half of Red Sox nation was predicting the outcome, when Tito put Timlin in.

]]> by: Mannybeingmanny http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-708 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:28:40 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/27/speaking-of-alan-embree/#comment-708 First it must be stated that Mike Timlin IS one of the 25. He brought us a World Championship and I will forever be greatful for that. In 2003 and 2004 he was lights out in our bullpen in the playoffs. That said, this is 2006 and I'd rather see opposing hitters facing virtually anyone else in our bullpen right now. What is inexplicable in all of this is Francona's repeat use of him and Timlin's blind insistence that other teams are simply hitting good pitches. Francona was quoted in the papers last night as saying that "Mike will continue to go out there in tough situations." And I say to you: Why??? Keith Foulke anyone? Manny Delcarmen? A midget putting the ball on a tee? Any of these would be better! Mike Timplin is D-O-N-E. Put him out to pasture, send him to the glue factory, whatever...just stop giving him innings! First it must be stated that Mike Timlin IS one of the 25. He brought us a World Championship and I will forever be greatful for that. In 2003 and 2004 he was lights out in our bullpen in the playoffs.

That said, this is 2006 and I’d rather see opposing hitters facing virtually anyone else in our bullpen right now. What is inexplicable in all of this is Francona’s repeat use of him and Timlin’s blind insistence that other teams are simply hitting good pitches. Francona was quoted in the papers last night as saying that “Mike will continue to go out there in tough situations.” And I say to you: Why???

Keith Foulke anyone? Manny Delcarmen? A midget putting the ball on a tee? Any of these would be better! Mike Timplin is D-O-N-E. Put him out to pasture, send him to the glue factory, whatever…just stop giving him innings!

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