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Comments on: David Wells headed anywhere except to the Yankees http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:53:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: gmschmidty http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-780 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:30:35 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-780 Wondered to a friend who is a Yankees fan why the Red Sox wouldn't shop the Fat Man to the Yanks. I know this is sacrilegious but look: this season is done. It doesn't matter to me who wins the WS. It won't be the team from Boston. The stated purpose of every move (or non-move) made since Nov. 2004 has been to build for 2007, 2008 and beyond. The more teams you get into a bidding war over Wells, the more likely you are to force a team to blink and make a deal reminiscent of Kazmir for Zambrano (he of the Non-Carlos ilk.) If the team that panics is, say, the Yankees, and they are willing to give you a Phillip Hughes (unlikely) or a Wil Nieves or Jose Tabata, then great. You fleece them the way they fleeced Philly. Worst case scenario they are one more team to play off the rest in the hopes of getting a legit prospect from Minnesota or LA or wherever. The line of thinking that says: "you can't trade with the Yankees, because they are the enemy" is just plain dumb. If the trade you make CANNOT possibly come back to haunt you this season (and we all agree, the Yanks aren't threatening to derail the Red Sox current dream-season) then you make the deal in the hopes of strengthening your future, and weakening your enemies' farm. Seems a win-win proposition to me. Wondered to a friend who is a Yankees fan why the Red Sox wouldn’t shop the Fat Man to the Yanks. I know this is sacrilegious but look: this season is done. It doesn’t matter to me who wins the WS. It won’t be the team from Boston. The stated purpose of every move (or non-move) made since Nov. 2004 has been to build for 2007, 2008 and beyond. The more teams you get into a bidding war over Wells, the more likely you are to force a team to blink and make a deal reminiscent of Kazmir for Zambrano (he of the Non-Carlos ilk.) If the team that panics is, say, the Yankees, and they are willing to give you a Phillip Hughes (unlikely) or a Wil Nieves or Jose Tabata, then great. You fleece them the way they fleeced Philly. Worst case scenario they are one more team to play off the rest in the hopes of getting a legit prospect from Minnesota or LA or wherever. The line of thinking that says: “you can’t trade with the Yankees, because they are the enemy” is just plain dumb. If the trade you make CANNOT possibly come back to haunt you this season (and we all agree, the Yanks aren’t threatening to derail the Red Sox current dream-season) then you make the deal in the hopes of strengthening your future, and weakening your enemies’ farm. Seems a win-win proposition to me.

]]> by: zoowah http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-776 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:38:07 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-776 Wells for Pedro? Wells for Lowe? Wells for Arroyo? Just exploring the possibilities... Wells for Pedro?
Wells for Lowe?
Wells for Arroyo?

Just exploring the possibilities…

]]> by: Sully http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-775 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:16:14 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-775 "Teams have an obligation to the fans that have purchased tickets to future games. That obligation is to try to win the game that the customer is attending." Do you really think fans attending what might me a meaningless game in the last week of September are going to be that upset that they didn't get to see the great David Wells pitch his final game in Fenway? If Theo can get a useful player (and if they've given up on the season), it's in the best interests of the team to move Wells. “Teams have an obligation to the fans that have purchased tickets to future games. That obligation is to try to win the game that the customer is attending.”

Do you really think fans attending what might me a meaningless game in the last week of September are going to be that upset that they didn’t get to see the great David Wells pitch his final game in Fenway? If Theo can get a useful player (and if they’ve given up on the season), it’s in the best interests of the team to move Wells.

]]> by: sxturner http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-772 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:07:41 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-772 From the Providence Journal: "And there was a healthy Red Sox body accompanying them, as well. Left-hander David Wells, scheduled to start tomorrow night's game against Toronto at Fenway Park, was flown home early to rest up for the outing -- if he isn't traded first, but that's another story." Did you ever think you’d hear Wells described as the “healthy body” out of a group of Red Sox players? Out of a group of anyone? Steve From the Providence Journal:

“And there was a healthy Red Sox body accompanying them, as well. Left-hander David Wells, scheduled to start tomorrow night’s game against Toronto at Fenway Park, was flown home early to rest up for the outing — if he isn’t traded first, but that’s another story.”

Did you ever think you’d hear Wells described as the “healthy body” out of a group of Red Sox players? Out of a group of anyone?

Steve

]]> by: 111875 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-767 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:56:37 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-767 Oh. Also--of course the Yanks will sue Pavano for, let's say, driving, and get out of the 10 million they owe him next year. Perfect. If only Clement would pull some ligaments while sky diving or something (NOT to permanently disable him. Just for a little bit. We get out of the contract, he can go on to a very sucessful career in San Diego or Milwaukee or for the Big Red Machine...) Oh. Also–of course the Yanks will sue Pavano for, let’s say, driving, and get out of the 10 million they owe him next year. Perfect. If only Clement would pull some ligaments while sky diving or something (NOT to permanently disable him. Just for a little bit. We get out of the contract, he can go on to a very sucessful career in San Diego or Milwaukee or for the Big Red Machine…)

]]> by: 111875 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-766 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:52:05 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-766 I can't decide if it is an example of stubborn pridefulness. If Boomer is surely going to retire, perhaps it is a Good Business Move to try to get something...anything...But then I think maybe I would prefer to Go Down Swingin'...head held high (ala the losing admiral going down with his ship in the Pirate Show outside Treasure Island in Vegas. Hand on hip. Chest puffed. Buttons on our Napolean-like jackets. The whole nine.) The answer: Pirate. Fake it til you feel it, boys. Even if you don't feel it again til Ft. Myers. ps Dear MLB TV, Help a sister out. Things are pretty bleak. Can we at least get the NESN feed? A little Remy goes a long way. I can’t decide if it is an example of stubborn pridefulness. If Boomer is surely going to retire, perhaps it is a Good Business Move to try to get something…anything…But then I think maybe I would prefer to Go Down Swingin’…head held high (ala the losing admiral going down with his ship in the Pirate Show outside Treasure Island in Vegas. Hand on hip. Chest puffed. Buttons on our Napolean-like jackets. The whole nine.)

The answer: Pirate. Fake it til you feel it, boys. Even if you don’t feel it again til Ft. Myers.

ps
Dear MLB TV,
Help a sister out. Things are pretty bleak. Can we at least get the NESN feed? A little Remy goes a long way.

]]> by: maineiac http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-765 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:24:20 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/08/29/david-wells-headed-anywhere-except-to-the-yankees/#comment-765 I hope the Sox don't throw in the towel this early. For one, it will create a sense of dispair. Teams have an obligation to the fans that have purchased tickets to future games. That obligation is to try to win the game that the customer is attending. If the Sox call it quits before they are mathematically eliminated, it will spell the end of the consecutive sell-outs and the cash cow that $6.00 beers bring. JH had better start planning on weekend sellouts and only on nice days. Remember only 7,000 people saw Clemens throw his first 20 strikeout game. I hope the Sox don’t throw in the towel this early. For one, it will create a sense of dispair. Teams have an obligation to the fans that have purchased tickets to future games. That obligation is to try to win the game that the customer is attending. If the Sox call it quits before they are mathematically eliminated, it will spell the end of the consecutive sell-outs and the cash cow that $6.00 beers bring. JH had better start planning on weekend sellouts and only on nice days. Remember only 7,000 people saw Clemens throw his first 20 strikeout game.

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