Comments on: The press is shocked, shocked! Roger Clemens named in Grimsley steroid affidavit http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Fri, 16 May 2008 19:12:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: The Feeding the Monster Blog — In which the author discusses Boston, the Red Sox, the media, and very occasionally popular music. » What - you want more on the Mitchell Report? http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-321115 Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:47:05 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-321115 [...] That’s all for now. I’ve written plenty about steroids in the past, including last August, when I wondered why no one was wondering about Roger, and way back in October ‘06, when I mocked the press’s surprise that Clemens had been fingered in he Grimsley affidavit. I also tagged Jason Giambi a gutless punk, ripped into the Players Union for defending the players’ right to destroy their livers, lamented the fact that Jose Canseco seemed to be the only honest guy around, and talked about how Bill James compared steroids to going through a divorce. (Sort of, anyway.) [...] […] That’s all for now. I’ve written plenty about steroids in the past, including last August, when I wondered why no one was wondering about Roger, and way back in October ‘06, when I mocked the press’s surprise that Clemens had been fingered in he Grimsley affidavit. I also tagged Jason Giambi a gutless punk, ripped into the Players Union for defending the players’ right to destroy their livers, lamented the fact that Jose Canseco seemed to be the only honest guy around, and talked about how Bill James compared steroids to going through a divorce. (Sort of, anyway.) […]

]]> by: HFXBOB http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1087 Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:01:12 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1087 In Canada we lost our PED virginity in the 1988 Olympics when Ben Johnson tested positive for steroids. This led to an investigation called the Dubin Inquiry. The highlight of the inquiry was the testimony of a sprinter named Angella Issajenko. She gave us the straight goods. One of the things she talked about was what users were told to say when accused: 'Deny, deny, deny'. We know now that use of PED's has been widespread. I think the focus should move from who did what and didn't get caught to how to catch the users now. In Canada we lost our PED virginity in the 1988 Olympics when Ben Johnson tested positive for steroids. This led to an investigation called the Dubin Inquiry. The highlight of the inquiry was the testimony of a sprinter named Angella Issajenko. She gave us the straight goods. One of the things she talked about was what users were told to say when accused: ‘Deny, deny, deny’.

We know now that use of PED’s has been widespread. I think the focus should move from who did what and didn’t get caught to how to catch the users now.

]]> by: austinregister http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1076 Tue, 03 Oct 2006 01:04:44 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1076 Why is anyone surprised at allegations against Clemens? Don't you remember him from the "Zest" soap commercials in the early 80's (Zestfully clean!)?... He was 180 pounds soaking wet (literally!)... And now, he's 235 pounds? Just look at him. This guy is on serious HGH's or something else, and I'm just surprised that it took so long before someone blurted his name out. Hope he gets what's coming... Why is anyone surprised at allegations against Clemens? Don’t you remember him from the “Zest” soap commercials in the early 80’s (Zestfully clean!)?… He was 180 pounds soaking wet (literally!)… And now, he’s 235 pounds? Just look at him. This guy is on serious HGH’s or something else, and I’m just surprised that it took so long before someone blurted his name out. Hope he gets what’s coming…

]]> by: Nordberg http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1075 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:54:27 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1075 It should be noted that Clemens offered no denial. Pettitte said he had never used anything. Clemens said he had never failed a test. Of course, there is no test for HGH. I am not splitting hairs, here. Something stinks. The press will chase Bonds but not Clemens, and let Giambi off the hook. It should be noted that Clemens offered no denial.
Pettitte said he had never used anything.
Clemens said he had never failed a test. Of course, there is no test for HGH.
I am not splitting hairs, here.
Something stinks. The press will chase Bonds but not Clemens, and let Giambi off the hook.

]]> by: GRG http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1074 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:51:58 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1074 I would imagine the sports press is going to be very careful about mentioning alleged 'roid users, these days. Any reporter with 'inside' sources in cases under investigation might be called into court, especially with a grand jury involved. I have to wonder if Lance Pugmire (the reporter from the LA Times) who authored the report on Clemens et al. won't be getting a call from a judge one of these days (ala Williams and Fainaru-Wada). I don't believe this is a grand jury item now, but it does sound like a 'leak'. I would imagine the sports press is going to be very careful about mentioning alleged ‘roid users, these days. Any reporter with ‘inside’ sources in cases under investigation might be called into court, especially with a grand jury involved. I have to wonder if Lance Pugmire (the reporter from the LA Times) who authored the report on Clemens et al. won’t be getting a call from a judge one of these days (ala Williams and Fainaru-Wada). I don’t believe this is a grand jury item now, but it does sound like a ‘leak’.

]]> by: The Big Lead » blog » Redacted Names Offer Few Surprises, Expected Denials http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1073 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:04:49 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1073 [...] Clemens Is Named in Drug Affidavit (Los Angeles Times) Clemens, Pettitte deny drug accusations (Houston Chronicle) The press is shocked, shocked! Roger Clemens named in Grimsley steroid affidavit (Seth Mnookin) Rocket Targeted (New York Daily News) Clemens and Pettitte Strongly Deny Grimsley Accusations (Sam Houston – Throwing Heat) Segui Says Feds Asked about Retired Stars (USA Today) [...] […] Clemens Is Named in Drug Affidavit (Los Angeles Times) Clemens, Pettitte deny drug accusations (Houston Chronicle) The press is shocked, shocked! Roger Clemens named in Grimsley steroid affidavit (Seth Mnookin) Rocket Targeted (New York Daily News) Clemens and Pettitte Strongly Deny Grimsley Accusations (Sam Houston – Throwing Heat) Segui Says Feds Asked about Retired Stars (USA Today) […]

]]> by: yazdog8 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1071 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:17:58 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/01/the-press-is-shocked-shocked-roger-clemens-named-in-grimsley-steroid-affidavit/#comment-1071 <i>Back in June, Jeff Pearlman asked, in Slate, why the country’s sportswriters were pretending that the steroid era was over. It was a good question then. It’s an even better — and more embarrassing one — now.</i> I think this question was answered with great depth in the book that broke the grand jury about the BALCO case and in "Juicing the Game" by Howard Bryant. Sports reporters are at the absolute mercy of locker room access. To upset that is to risk certain career death. And I don't know too many people that are willing to commit that kind of suicide. We all know that the MLB testing policy is a joke. But then again so is baseball leadership. Back in June, Jeff Pearlman asked, in Slate, why the country’s sportswriters were pretending that the steroid era was over. It was a good question then. It’s an even better — and more embarrassing one — now.

I think this question was answered with great depth in the book that broke the grand jury about the BALCO case and in “Juicing the Game” by Howard Bryant. Sports reporters are at the absolute mercy of locker room access. To upset that is to risk certain career death. And I don’t know too many people that are willing to commit that kind of suicide.

We all know that the MLB testing policy is a joke. But then again so is baseball leadership.

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