Comments on: Year-end wrap-ups: Dodging a bullet with Pedro http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:22:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: The Feeding the Monster Blog — In which the author discusses Boston, the Red Sox, the media, and very occasionally popular music. » Pedro, you break my heart http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-456075 The Feeding the Monster Blog — In which the author discusses Boston, the Red Sox, the media, and very occasionally popular music. » Pedro, you break my heart Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:14:20 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-456075 [...] I’ve had a long, and somewhat complicated history with Pedro. Some of my most joyous baseball memories are the result of his brilliance. (I’ve already gone on too many times about his 17-K performance at Yankee Stadium in September 99…the game that got me escorted out of the ballpark for my own safety.) His 2006 return to Fenway was chill (and tear) inducing. On the other hand, his continued obfuscation during same return was childish, and I’m very happy the Sox aren’t on the hook for his salary. (Among other reasons is this Sunday’s starter.) [...] [...] I’ve had a long, and somewhat complicated history with Pedro. Some of my most joyous baseball memories are the result of his brilliance. (I’ve already gone on too many times about his 17-K performance at Yankee Stadium in September 99…the game that got me escorted out of the ballpark for my own safety.) His 2006 return to Fenway was chill (and tear) inducing. On the other hand, his continued obfuscation during same return was childish, and I’m very happy the Sox aren’t on the hook for his salary. (Among other reasons is this Sunday’s starter.) [...]

]]> By: Hambone http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1130 Hambone Thu, 05 Oct 2006 21:26:50 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1130 #2: I think you make a good point, and I agree that going after Petey showed that the Mets were serious. But ultimately you need to make good decisions, not just sign expensive people. Unless the Mets win it this year (which I doubt) they'll need to show that they can make those good decisions. #3: What, should we start including standard deviance along with ERAs? Considering that the statistics are taken from such a small sample (30ish at best, and in martinez's case, just 23), every game is going to cause a large swing in the stats. Besides, I think the important thing when talking about Pedro this year is his injury, not his stats. #2: I think you make a good point, and I agree that going after Petey showed that the Mets were serious. But ultimately you need to make good decisions, not just sign expensive people. Unless the Mets win it this year (which I doubt) they’ll need to show that they can make those good decisions.

#3: What, should we start including standard deviance along with ERAs? Considering that the statistics are taken from such a small sample (30ish at best, and in martinez’s case, just 23), every game is going to cause a large swing in the stats.

Besides, I think the important thing when talking about Pedro this year is his injury, not his stats.

]]> By: madizzy http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1111 madizzy Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:34:08 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1111 It's not a common technique used in sports statisics. that's for sure. What's next? Drop a batter's worst 10 games? Pedro is done. I be he won't win 10 more games as a big leaguer. It’s not a common technique used in sports statisics. that’s for sure. What’s next? Drop a batter’s worst 10 games?

Pedro is done. I be he won’t win 10 more games as a big leaguer.

]]> By: HFXBOB http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1110 HFXBOB Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:26:02 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1110 One point I'd like to make is that Pedro's ERA of 4.48 is misleading and shows how badly this stat needs to be overhauled. When you look at Pedro's last 8 appearances of the season you see the ERA climbed from 3.01 to 4.48 in that time. The shelling in Boston raised it by .44 and the shelling in Atlanta raised it by .40. The ERA stat is flawed because it can be heavily inflated by a couple of bad outings-even a couple of bad innings. Why not have an adjusted figure that excludes the best 10% of appearances and worst 10% or something like that. It's a common technique used in statistics. Certainly Pedro had a horrible finish because of the injuries, but the 4.48 makes his season look worse than it was. One point I’d like to make is that Pedro’s ERA of 4.48 is misleading and shows how badly this stat needs to be overhauled. When you look at Pedro’s last 8 appearances of the season you see the ERA climbed from 3.01 to 4.48 in that time. The shelling in Boston raised it by .44 and the shelling in Atlanta raised it by .40. The ERA stat is flawed because it can be heavily inflated by a couple of bad outings-even a couple of bad innings. Why not have an adjusted figure that excludes the best 10% of appearances and worst 10% or something like that. It’s a common technique used in statistics. Certainly Pedro had a horrible finish because of the injuries, but the 4.48 makes his season look worse than it was.

]]> By: Mr. Furious http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1104 Mr. Furious Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:49:50 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1104 The Mets got their money's worth in a way that the Sox couldn't have. the PEdro signing was as much about credibility for the franchise as it was about ERA or Ws. They needed to overpay for that. The Sox, coming off a championship, didn't. The Mets got their money’s worth in a way that the Sox couldn’t have. the PEdro signing was as much about credibility for the franchise as it was about ERA or Ws. They needed to overpay for that. The Sox, coming off a championship, didn’t.

]]> By: yerfatma http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1102 yerfatma Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:11:23 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/03/year-end-wrap-ups-dodging-a-bullet-with-pedro/#comment-1102 As one of the teeming millions who rushed home and planned their evenings around Petey starts, loved his ability to turn a phrase in English and the overall experience, can someone please explain the people who show up in blog comments and on 'EEI to rake the Sox over the coals for not signing up for the 2009 Pedro Martinez Experience? Because I'm lost. As one of the teeming millions who rushed home and planned their evenings around Petey starts, loved his ability to turn a phrase in English and the overall experience, can someone please explain the people who show up in blog comments and on ‘EEI to rake the Sox over the coals for not signing up for the 2009 Pedro Martinez Experience? Because I’m lost.

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