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Comments on: OK, Gammons, enough cribbing off my blog (The Derek Lowe Year-End Wrap-Up) http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:40:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: yerfatma http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1123 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:10:00 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1123 If that sportscaster had been Bob Lobel, we'd definitely still be talking about it. If that sportscaster had been Bob Lobel, we’d definitely still be talking about it.

]]> by: bencoates http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1122 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 04:13:33 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1122 The third part of the Allison and Carter trade for the Bruins was Jim Carey, not Blaine Lacher. The third part of the Allison and Carter trade for the Bruins was Jim Carey, not Blaine Lacher.

]]> by: branatical http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1121 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:44:40 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1121 "I also see much more clearly how important a pitcher’s physical history and his ability to succeed in a specific environment should be taken into consideration." How right you are, but this shouldn't only apply to pitchers...all players who have proven they can succeed in a specific environment, like Fenway say, should be given extra special consideration. And speaking of physical history, I recall Clement had shoulder/neck issues at the end of 04 and the Cubs had to shut him down. This seems like it should have been a major red flag. And how did MRI's never pick up anything on Clement's shoulder? And why did the Sox wait all year to explore the damn thing? “I also see much more clearly how important a pitcher’s physical history and his ability to succeed in a specific environment should be taken into consideration.”

How right you are, but this shouldn’t only apply to pitchers…all players who have proven they can succeed in a specific environment, like Fenway say, should be given extra special consideration.

And speaking of physical history, I recall Clement had shoulder/neck issues at the end of 04 and the Cubs had to shut him down. This seems like it should have been a major red flag. And how did MRI’s never pick up anything on Clement’s shoulder? And why did the Sox wait all year to explore the damn thing?

]]> by: deversm http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1119 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:56:55 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1119 Ignoring the physical makeup of the pitcher has long been the downfall of the Texas Rangers, no matter who was running the show. They have a history of signing guys with questionable durability and then wonder why their staff wilts every August in the Texas heat. Were they to have signed (or groomed) a rotation of half-a-dozen or so Rick Hellings they could have made a serious run at the post-season in many of their offensively productive recent years. Ignoring the physical makeup of the pitcher has long been the downfall of the Texas Rangers, no matter who was running the show. They have a history of signing guys with questionable durability and then wonder why their staff wilts every August in the Texas heat. Were they to have signed (or groomed) a rotation of half-a-dozen or so Rick Hellings they could have made a serious run at the post-season in many of their offensively productive recent years.

]]> by: Ogie Oglethorpe http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1117 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:44:09 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1117 Take a look at some of these guys. Clement, Wright, Pavano and Wells went from the NL to the AL. Of that group, Clement and Wells were clearly the most productive. Unreal that I can say that without laughing but Wells had a pretty decent season last year and Clement had a pretty good half season last year. Both contributed little this year. For all of the heat that Theo gets for signing these two you here little to nothing of the two disasters signed by Cashman (Although word is that George's Tampa contingent lobbied for these guys). Now look at Pedro and Lowe doing the reverse commute. Going from the AL to the NL is like living in South Boston and working in Marshfield. Every morning you see people pulling their hair out in bumper to bumper traffic while you are going 80-85 mph wondering if this is too good to be true. Of course those guys are (were in Pedro's case) doing well. Also, if you want to talk lopsided trades how about the Cubbies trading Clement for Dontrelle Willis... http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/chc/news/chc_gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20031011&content_id=574553&vkey=ds2003game&fext=.jsp Take a look at some of these guys. Clement, Wright, Pavano and Wells went from the NL to the AL. Of that group, Clement and Wells were clearly the most productive. Unreal that I can say that without laughing but Wells had a pretty decent season last year and Clement had a pretty good half season last year. Both contributed little this year. For all of the heat that Theo gets for signing these two you here little to nothing of the two disasters signed by Cashman (Although word is that George’s Tampa contingent lobbied for these guys). Now look at Pedro and Lowe doing the reverse commute. Going from the AL to the NL is like living in South Boston and working in Marshfield. Every morning you see people pulling their hair out in bumper to bumper traffic while you are going 80-85 mph wondering if this is too good to be true. Of course those guys are (were in Pedro’s case) doing well. Also, if you want to talk lopsided trades how about the Cubbies trading Clement for Dontrelle Willis…

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/chc/news/chc_gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20031011&content_id=574553&vkey=ds2003game&fext=.jsp

]]> by: Mike http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1116 Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:53:16 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/10/04/ok-gammons-enough-cribbing-off-my-blog-the-derek-lowe-year-end-wrap-up/#comment-1116 There's been a bunch from the Bruins side as well -- the trade that netted them Neely and Wesley from Vancouver, the trade that got them Oates, the trade that got them Allison, Carter and Lacher. Whatever else you wan tto say about Harry Sinden, he had a damn good run there getting key pieces in what at the time looked to be somewhat lopsided trades against the Bruins. There’s been a bunch from the Bruins side as well — the trade that netted them Neely and Wesley from Vancouver, the trade that got them Oates, the trade that got them Allison, Carter and Lacher.

Whatever else you wan tto say about Harry Sinden, he had a damn good run there getting key pieces in what at the time looked to be somewhat lopsided trades against the Bruins.

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