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	<title>Comments on: Moneyball isn&#8217;t dead&#8230;it just has frosted tips and a porn-star goatee</title>
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		<title>By: spira</title>
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		<dc:creator>spira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I'd bet against Keith here.  Yes, Piazza hit well outside of Petco.  But part of the reason for that is an NL West player, he got 50 or so plate appearances he got at Coors and Bank One, two of the best three hitters parks in the majors over the last three years though he will get to play in Arlington) Plus, he didn't have to play any road games at Petco, unlike the rest of the league.

In 2004, Piazza had a 694 OPS on the road.  In 2005, he had a 725 OPS on the road.  Yes, not catching will help him a little.  But the reality is that most of the damage to his body has already been done.  I've seen a number of veteran catchers become designated hitters late in their careers, and none of them have found their bat suddenly rejuvenated.

There's no way in hell that Piazza in 2007 is going to match Thomas' 2006 OPS of 926 over 500 plate appearances.  I feel very comfortable saying that Pizza will post an OPS under 850 next year with Oakland, and he'll do that while getting a significant amount of rest against tough right-handed pitching.

Not that this is necessarily a bad move on Beane's part, given the lack of alternatives.  But this is not a move with anywhere near the upside that the Thomas signing had last year.  There's a very good chance that next season Piazza won't even match the worst OPS that Thomas has ever posted in a season (minimum 100 plate appearances)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I&#8217;d bet against Keith here.  Yes, Piazza hit well outside of Petco.  But part of the reason for that is an NL West player, he got 50 or so plate appearances he got at Coors and Bank One, two of the best three hitters parks in the majors over the last three years though he will get to play in Arlington) Plus, he didn&#8217;t have to play any road games at Petco, unlike the rest of the league.</p>
<p>In 2004, Piazza had a 694 OPS on the road.  In 2005, he had a 725 OPS on the road.  Yes, not catching will help him a little.  But the reality is that most of the damage to his body has already been done.  I&#8217;ve seen a number of veteran catchers become designated hitters late in their careers, and none of them have found their bat suddenly rejuvenated.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no way in hell that Piazza in 2007 is going to match Thomas&#8217; 2006 OPS of 926 over 500 plate appearances.  I feel very comfortable saying that Pizza will post an OPS under 850 next year with Oakland, and he&#8217;ll do that while getting a significant amount of rest against tough right-handed pitching.</p>
<p>Not that this is necessarily a bad move on Beane&#8217;s part, given the lack of alternatives.  But this is not a move with anywhere near the upside that the Thomas signing had last year.  There&#8217;s a very good chance that next season Piazza won&#8217;t even match the worst OPS that Thomas has ever posted in a season (minimum 100 plate appearances)</p>
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		<title>By: zoowah</title>
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		<dc:creator>zoowah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth,

I read Murray Chass this a.m. and saw your brain explode.

Why not challenge him to a duel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth,</p>
<p>I read Murray Chass this a.m. and saw your brain explode.</p>
<p>Why not challenge him to a duel?</p>
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		<title>By: V06</title>
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		<dc:creator>V06</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How different would the Red Sox as we know them now be should Billy Beane have come to Boston? 

Comment by redsoxtimes — December 7, 2006 @ 4:16 pm 



88 years and still counting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How different would the Red Sox as we know them now be should Billy Beane have come to Boston? </p>
<p>Comment by redsoxtimes — December 7, 2006 @ 4:16 pm </p>
<p>88 years and still counting.</p>
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		<title>By: redsoxtimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>redsoxtimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How different would the Red Sox as we know them now be should Billy Beane have come to Boston?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How different would the Red Sox as we know them now be should Billy Beane have come to Boston?</p>
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		<title>By: cursemyreverse</title>
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		<dc:creator>cursemyreverse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith Law is the best columnist I've seen come onto the scene in years. Really insightful analysis every time he hits the keys. 

Him and Buster are both enjoyable on a daily basis, although Buster seems to be going on a bit more offense lately which always a little concerning for a sportswriter. I do find it hilarious however that he publishes the "you are so biased" letters from simultaneously angry sox and yankees fans after the same published opinion regarding one of the teams. Love a good bias debunking. 

I'd presume Phillips gets his rumors from his hair stylist, although I bet it takes more than one to keep that helmet of spray and wax perfected. The best part is how ESPN basically ran a little with his Bonds/Sox insanity and actually asked Gammons about it, who said No as respectively as he could muster. Really I think they should have had Peter being in the middle of a drink of water and then spit it out all over karl ravech when he hears the question. (THIS IS...SPORTSCENTER) 

I wonder if they all play jokes on Steve in between takes, making him spell words or match up current general managers with their teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith Law is the best columnist I&#8217;ve seen come onto the scene in years. Really insightful analysis every time he hits the keys. </p>
<p>Him and Buster are both enjoyable on a daily basis, although Buster seems to be going on a bit more offense lately which always a little concerning for a sportswriter. I do find it hilarious however that he publishes the &#8220;you are so biased&#8221; letters from simultaneously angry sox and yankees fans after the same published opinion regarding one of the teams. Love a good bias debunking. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d presume Phillips gets his rumors from his hair stylist, although I bet it takes more than one to keep that helmet of spray and wax perfected. The best part is how ESPN basically ran a little with his Bonds/Sox insanity and actually asked Gammons about it, who said No as respectively as he could muster. Really I think they should have had Peter being in the middle of a drink of water and then spit it out all over karl ravech when he hears the question. (THIS IS&#8230;SPORTSCENTER) </p>
<p>I wonder if they all play jokes on Steve in between takes, making him spell words or match up current general managers with their teams.</p>
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		<title>By: branatical</title>
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		<dc:creator>branatical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth,

About your statement in the Slate piece about the Yankees playing the market better than anyone else; It's a little premature don't you think?  I mean, it remains to be seen but $15m for Pettite and $18m for a half year of the Rocket is completely at odds with your statement: "After years of binging on overpaid veterans, the Bronx Bombers have developed a sudden fondness for developing and acquiring young players."  Looks like they're trying but old habits die hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth,</p>
<p>About your statement in the Slate piece about the Yankees playing the market better than anyone else; It&#8217;s a little premature don&#8217;t you think?  I mean, it remains to be seen but $15m for Pettite and $18m for a half year of the Rocket is completely at odds with your statement: &#8220;After years of binging on overpaid veterans, the Bronx Bombers have developed a sudden fondness for developing and acquiring young players.&#8221;  Looks like they&#8217;re trying but old habits die hard.</p>
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