http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/12/30/big-mac-revisited-still-not-worth-much-more-than-a-qp-with-cheese/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:55:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/12/30/big-mac-revisited-still-not-worth-much-more-than-a-qp-with-cheese/#comment-4882 sanford sklansky Mon, 01 Jan 2007 18:11:11 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/12/30/big-mac-revisited-still-not-worth-much-more-than-a-qp-with-cheese/#comment-4882 Granted McGwire was not a big BA guy, his OBP and SLG numbers were much better than Kingman. He was not a particularly great fielder and though character does not apparently count for much, he didn't have much of that either. Granted McGwire was not a big BA guy, his OBP and SLG numbers were much better than Kingman. He was not a particularly great fielder and though character does not apparently count for much, he didn’t have much of that either.

]]> http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/12/30/big-mac-revisited-still-not-worth-much-more-than-a-qp-with-cheese/#comment-4841 HFXBOB Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:36:02 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/12/30/big-mac-revisited-still-not-worth-much-more-than-a-qp-with-cheese/#comment-4841 Dave Kingman was one of my favorite players to watch. When that SOB connected he could really hit the crap out of the ball. I remember a Saturday game in Shea Stadium when he hit 3 dingers, each awesome in its one way. One was a line drive laser beam, one a towering fly into the upper deck and one a 500 foot bomb into the parking lot. Imagine what King Kong would have done on steroids. As for the serious problem of steroids and the Hall, I'm afraid there may be no logical solution available. For once it may make perfect sense to let the voters just follow their own instincts. Dave Kingman was one of my favorite players to watch. When that SOB connected he could really hit the crap out of the ball. I remember a Saturday game in Shea Stadium when he hit 3 dingers, each awesome in its one way. One was a line drive laser beam, one a towering fly into the upper deck and one a 500 foot bomb into the parking lot. Imagine what King Kong would have done on steroids. As for the serious problem of steroids and the Hall, I’m afraid there may be no logical solution available. For once it may make perfect sense to let the voters just follow their own instincts.

]]> http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/12/30/big-mac-revisited-still-not-worth-much-more-than-a-qp-with-cheese/#comment-4832 tinisoli Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:13:26 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2006/12/30/big-mac-revisited-still-not-worth-much-more-than-a-qp-with-cheese/#comment-4832 Seth, The thing I don't like about your philosophy on steroid users and the HOF is that there's essentially no penalty for having cheated so long as you were good beforehand. Your argument, which is echoed by plenty of other writers, is that steroids gave some players (Mac, Sosa, Giambi, Palmeiro) HOF numbers that they otherwise wouldn't have had, while some users who were already phenomenally talented (Bonds) probably would've been shoo-ins for the Hall either way. Therefore, the players who cheated out of what they might call necessity (or practicality) are locked out of Cooperstown, and the players who used out of sheer vanity are allowed in. That doesn't make one bit of sense to me. A cheater is a cheater. Why should players who are better to begin with be given a pass? Is it somehow less disgusting for a perennial All-Star to give himself an extreme makeover and become the all-time HR king than it is for a mediocre hitter to make himself, through chemistry, into an All-Star? Seth,
The thing I don’t like about your philosophy on steroid users and the HOF is that there’s essentially no penalty for having cheated so long as you were good beforehand. Your argument, which is echoed by plenty of other writers, is that steroids gave some players (Mac, Sosa, Giambi, Palmeiro) HOF numbers that they otherwise wouldn’t have had, while some users who were already phenomenally talented (Bonds) probably would’ve been shoo-ins for the Hall either way. Therefore, the players who cheated out of what they might call necessity (or practicality) are locked out of Cooperstown, and the players who used out of sheer vanity are allowed in. That doesn’t make one bit of sense to me. A cheater is a cheater. Why should players who are better to begin with be given a pass? Is it somehow less disgusting for a perennial All-Star to give himself an extreme makeover and become the all-time HR king than it is for a mediocre hitter to make himself, through chemistry, into an All-Star?

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