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Comments on: Murray Chass defends his right to be ignorant, uninformed http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:46:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: What I’ve Learned So Far » Blog Archive » More on Chass. http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-10255 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:33:27 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-10255 [...] –Here’s a smart take from Seth Mnookin. Mnookin, by the way, wrote a clear-eyed book about The New York Times called Hard News a couple of years back. At the time, I gave it a positive review in the Austin-American Statesman. [...] […] –Here’s a smart take from Seth Mnookin. Mnookin, by the way, wrote a clear-eyed book about The New York Times called Hard News a couple of years back. At the time, I gave it a positive review in the Austin-American Statesman. […]

]]> by: jjcardis http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-10091 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:13:11 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-10091 @dbvader: <a href="http://www.thehardballtimes.com" rel="nofollow">The Hardball Times</a>, though not a "traditional media," do some of the best work in combining great writing with statistical analysis. @dbvader: The Hardball Times, though not a “traditional media,” do some of the best work in combining great writing with statistical analysis.

]]> by: Ogie Oglethorpe http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-10041 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:54:28 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-10041 From a Keith Law chat: Tom Tuttle (Tacoma): Here's what Murray Chass had to say about VORP in today's column in the NY Times: "I suppose if stats mongers want to sit at their computers and play with these things all day long, that's their prerogatve. But their attempt to introduce these new-age statistics into the game threatens to undermine most fans' enjoyment of baseball and the human factor therein." How in the world does the addition of a little more (and more sophisticated) information into the analysis of a sport threaten anyone or anything other than the reputation of a writer who refuses to change with the times?! Keith Law: It reads wonderfully as a satire of dinosaur journalism. Sadly, it's not. From a Keith Law chat:

Tom Tuttle (Tacoma): Here’s what Murray Chass had to say about VORP in today’s column in the NY Times: “I suppose if stats mongers want to sit at their computers and play with these things all day long, that’s their prerogatve. But their attempt to introduce these new-age statistics into the game threatens to undermine most fans’ enjoyment of baseball and the human factor therein.” How in the world does the addition of a little more (and more sophisticated) information into the analysis of a sport threaten anyone or anything other than the reputation of a writer who refuses to change with the times?!

Keith Law: It reads wonderfully as a satire of dinosaur journalism. Sadly, it’s not.

]]> by: mdlamster http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-9855 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:51:09 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-9855 Wilfull ignorance is bad; but don't forget, on this day, his ethical lapse regarding the VC voting: http://yanksfansoxfan.typepad.com/ysfs/2007/02/more_on_the_hof.html Wilfull ignorance is bad; but don’t forget, on this day, his ethical lapse regarding the VC voting:

http://yanksfansoxfan.typepad.com/ysfs/2007/02/more_on_the_hof.html

]]> by: deversm http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-9769 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:56:46 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-9769 You may already be aware of this, but the good folks over at Baseball Prospectus have chimed in: <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=233" rel="nofollow">An Open Letter to Murray Chass</a> As well as the entertaining crew at Fire Joe Morgan: <a href="http://www.firejoemorgan.com/" rel="nofollow">This Is Why This Site Exists</a> You may already be aware of this, but the good folks over at Baseball Prospectus have chimed in:

An Open Letter to Murray Chass

As well as the entertaining crew at Fire Joe Morgan:

This Is Why This Site Exists

]]> by: jthewes http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-9759 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:50:44 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-9759 Who's more annoying, Murray Chass or Carl Pavano? <a href="http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2007/02/embattled_pavan.html" rel="nofollow">Embattled Pavano brings in Chris Chandler as personal trainer</a> Who’s more annoying, Murray Chass or Carl Pavano?

Embattled Pavano brings in Chris Chandler as personal trainer

]]> by: kgilpin http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-9729 Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:06:34 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/02/27/murray-chass-defends-his-right-to-be-ignorant-uninformed/#comment-9729 Maybe the concept of Value Over Replacement Journalist would make more sense to him. Maybe the concept of Value Over Replacement Journalist would make more sense to him.

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