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Comments on: All I can say is wow: ol’ Murray impresses once again http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:21:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: tmorgan http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24908 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:14:05 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24908 I think the other part that deserves mention is how wrong he was about the money issues. While he says: "Not that the Red Sox were going to negotiate in bad faith; they just figured that Boras, who wanted them to treat Matsuzaka as a free agent and not as a player who could bargain only with the Red Sox, would make demands that the Red Sox would be unwilling to meet." But then seems to think that if the RS had offered only 5-6 million per year it would have been in good faith. It seems pretty clear to me that a final offer of under the posting fee would not have been in good faith. I think the other part that deserves mention is how wrong he was about the money issues. While he says: “Not that the Red Sox were going to negotiate in bad faith; they just figured that Boras, who wanted them to treat Matsuzaka as a free agent and not as a player who could bargain only with the Red Sox, would make demands that the Red Sox would be unwilling to meet.” But then seems to think that if the RS had offered only 5-6 million per year it would have been in good faith. It seems pretty clear to me that a final offer of under the posting fee would not have been in good faith.

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by: mattymatty http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24553 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:47:26 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24553 No, Seth! Don't move on. Keep at him! Mur-ray sucks! Mur-ray Sucks! No, Seth! Don’t move on. Keep at him! Mur-ray sucks! Mur-ray Sucks!

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by: carnett http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24340 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:58:30 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24340 Seth, After I read that article I knew you'd have something to say on your blog. Mr.Chass is great, his articles are informative, intelligent, and utter bullshit. My advice to you is to forget about him. Stop writing about him. He is dead to you Seth! You must move on. The powers that be have major issues about keeping him on payroll. Accept that fact. Stop wasting time blogging about him. Give the old school fans insight on the Sox. Your gettin pretty famous in downeast Maine. Seth,

After I read that article I knew you’d have something to say on your blog. Mr.Chass is great, his articles are informative, intelligent, and utter bullshit. My advice to you is to forget about him. Stop writing about him. He is dead to you Seth! You must move on. The powers that be have major issues about keeping him on payroll. Accept that fact. Stop wasting time blogging about him. Give the old school fans insight on the Sox. Your gettin pretty famous in downeast Maine.

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by: TPIRman http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24304 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:10:21 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24304 Just so subsequent readers don't think my previous comment came out of left field, the earlier version of Seth's post said that he had discovered that it was "to whit" rather than "to wit." So I was wondering/questioning where he had discovered it, not just lecturing him for the sake of pedantry. <i>Totally true -- that's why I kept the asterisk next to it...but I should have been clearer. Anyway, thanks; I'd rather be corrected once and know forever after then go around looking like a boob... -Seth</i> Just so subsequent readers don’t think my previous comment came out of left field, the earlier version of Seth’s post said that he had discovered that it was “to whit” rather than “to wit.” So I was wondering/questioning where he had discovered it, not just lecturing him for the sake of pedantry.

Totally true — that’s why I kept the asterisk next to it…but I should have been clearer. Anyway, thanks; I’d rather be corrected once and know forever after then go around looking like a boob…

-Seth

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by: tym http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24296 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:38:42 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24296 I saw the column through Olney's blog too (and used that comments feature to lament the man having a job) - I'd be curious what wider perception is of this hack. Buckley alluded to this blog after the article was mentioned on EEI as being entertaining reading during the offseason with all the Murray Chass stuff. Olney was Chass's editor (I think he was an editor) for a few years, right? I saw the column through Olney’s blog too (and used that comments feature to lament the man having a job) - I’d be curious what wider perception is of this hack. Buckley alluded to this blog after the article was mentioned on EEI as being entertaining reading during the offseason with all the Murray Chass stuff.

Olney was Chass’s editor (I think he was an editor) for a few years, right?

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by: MarshallDog http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24261 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 18:42:13 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24261 The worst part of all this is Buster Olney's ESPN blog links to this story as if it were news, or some kind of "revealing" story. I hope Seth is not the only person in the mainstream media that realizes that Murray's full of crap. His articles aren't news because they don't make sense as news. They only make sense as part of a obsessive, concentrated effort to demonize everything the Red Sox try to accomplish. In what other context does quoting unnamed sources that contradict all available evidence become anything more than a contrivance? Not sure if my rant makes any sense... It's just that when I read his pieces, I can't help but think to myself, "My god, he just makes it up as he goes!" Don't people usually get fired for that? The worst part of all this is Buster Olney’s ESPN blog links to this story as if it were news, or some kind of “revealing” story. I hope Seth is not the only person in the mainstream media that realizes that Murray’s full of crap. His articles aren’t news because they don’t make sense as news. They only make sense as part of a obsessive, concentrated effort to demonize everything the Red Sox try to accomplish. In what other context does quoting unnamed sources that contradict all available evidence become anything more than a contrivance?

Not sure if my rant makes any sense… It’s just that when I read his pieces, I can’t help but think to myself, “My god, he just makes it up as he goes!” Don’t people usually get fired for that?

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by: tym http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24225 Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:26:55 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/28/all-i-can-say-is-wow-ol-murray-impresses-once-again/#comment-24225 I think you should hold a secondary competition for a Murray impersonation or best email response to a "I don't understand how you have a job" email sent to him. I think you should hold a secondary competition for a Murray impersonation or best email response to a “I don’t understand how you have a job” email sent to him.

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