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Comments on: T-3 and counting… http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:43:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: MSGiro http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-27088 Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:54:56 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-27088 Seth, After reading CHB's column, in horror I may add, do you have a sudden urge to move back in with your parents and set up shop in the basement? Could CHB have actually done some research instead of recycling a 10 year old cliche/joke? It shocks me that the Globe's editors allowed it. Not for it being accurate, but rather because it proved how distant old media is from new media. Insult us all you want guys, but the reason we do what we do these days on blogs, YouTube, Second Life and various other new media goodies is because a lot of your content is awful, tired and outdated. MS Seth,

After reading CHB’s column, in horror I may add, do you have a sudden urge to move back in with your parents and set up shop in the basement? Could CHB have actually done some research instead of recycling a 10 year old cliche/joke? It shocks me that the Globe’s editors allowed it. Not for it being accurate, but rather because it proved how distant old media is from new media. Insult us all you want guys, but the reason we do what we do these days on blogs, YouTube, Second Life and various other new media goodies is because a lot of your content is awful, tired and outdated.

MS

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by: tinisoli http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25725 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:46:11 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25725 I agree, HFXBOB, that there is something grotesque about Clemens' option of sauntering back into the game in midsummer for the highest bidder and/or best team. He's the athletic equivalent of the heavily-armed, exorbitantly-paid "private contractors" currently employed by the DoD in Iraq to supplement the Army and Marines. I personally have no interest in seeing him on the Sox again, no matter what the circumstances. Not because he left in a huff or was mediocre for several years while he was here or because he went to the Yankees. It's simply because of the mercenary nature of his contributions to the game in the last couple of years. And yeah, what are the odds this guy hasn't used HGH or steroids in the last ten years, let alone the last five? I agree, HFXBOB, that there is something grotesque about Clemens’ option of sauntering back into the game in midsummer for the highest bidder and/or best team. He’s the athletic equivalent of the heavily-armed, exorbitantly-paid “private contractors” currently employed by the DoD in Iraq to supplement the Army and Marines. I personally have no interest in seeing him on the Sox again, no matter what the circumstances. Not because he left in a huff or was mediocre for several years while he was here or because he went to the Yankees. It’s simply because of the mercenary nature of his contributions to the game in the last couple of years. And yeah, what are the odds this guy hasn’t used HGH or steroids in the last ten years, let alone the last five?

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by: HFXBOB http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25682 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:59:01 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25682 Does anybody else find the whole Clemens thing totally bizarre? Has any other athlete in history ever been in this guy's position of freedom and power? He's allowed to wait until he's damn good and ready to decide if he wants to play anymore, and when inevitably he decides he does want to, but just for part of the year, he considers offers from the few teams who have the right money and the right situations for him. Incredible. Last year Houston paid him $16 million for a measly 113 innings of work. That's $3 million more than Schilling wants for a full year. Clemens is 45, and he must be running on steroid power. If Schilling was on steroids maybe the Sox wouldn't think he was too old to re-sign. Maybe they haven't noticed he's 4 years younger than Clemens. And we keep hearing how much money the Sox spent this offseason, but everybody seems to think it would be great if we threw another cartload of it at Roger. Also please check out the Rocket's performances from the entire 2005 postseason, 2004 NLCS game 7, and 2003 ALCS game 7. They suck, big-time. Roger piles up those great numbers when they don't count. Does anybody else find the whole Clemens thing totally bizarre? Has any other athlete in history ever been in this guy’s position of freedom and power? He’s allowed to wait until he’s damn good and ready to decide if he wants to play anymore, and when inevitably he decides he does want to, but just for part of the year, he considers offers from the few teams who have the right money and the right situations for him. Incredible. Last year Houston paid him $16 million for a measly 113 innings of work. That’s $3 million more than Schilling wants for a full year. Clemens is 45, and he must be running on steroid power. If Schilling was on steroids maybe the Sox wouldn’t think he was too old to re-sign. Maybe they haven’t noticed he’s 4 years younger than Clemens. And we keep hearing how much money the Sox spent this offseason, but everybody seems to think it would be great if we threw another cartload of it at Roger. Also please check out the Rocket’s performances from the entire 2005 postseason, 2004 NLCS game 7, and 2003 ALCS game 7. They suck, big-time. Roger piles up those great numbers when they don’t count.

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by: phenweigh http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25651 Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:05:58 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25651 "Drezner makes a good point. In this case, I think Shaughnessy’s also worried that he’ll lose access to one of the city’s most entertaining sports personalities. Schilling’s never been shy about expressing his disdain for Dan; in face, I’ve often wondered why Schilling spoke to him at all. Maybe now, he won’t…" Did you mean "in fact" instead of "in face". At least it's something that sneaks by spellchecker. Regarding Shaughnessy, I stopped reading him long ago, but Curt's comment prompted me to check that hideous column. Never again. “Drezner makes a good point. In this case, I think Shaughnessy’s also worried that he’ll lose access to one of the city’s most entertaining sports personalities. Schilling’s never been shy about expressing his disdain for Dan; in face, I’ve often wondered why Schilling spoke to him at all. Maybe now, he won’t…”

Did you mean “in fact” instead of “in face”. At least it’s something that sneaks by spellchecker.

Regarding Shaughnessy, I stopped reading him long ago, but Curt’s comment prompted me to check that hideous column. Never again.

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by: sogrady http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25643 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:47:01 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25643 "This will surprise some people, but I actually think Shaughnessy is a very good columnist in that he’s great at hitting a nerve and is generally pretty fearless about public’s (and his subject’s) reactions." Surprised me, certainly. I don't mind athelete criticism, and certainly would not cede the task of reporting to the individuals themselves, but after years and years of his bile I've given up. Haven't read him in years, and don't plan to again. Like yourself, I respect any writer that can take a difficult position and defend it without reservation, but too often for CHB a "difficult position" equates to "ad hominem attacks" and unnecessarily vitriolic commentary. Bob Ryan can make a point - and a pointed one at that - without resorting to the poison pen as Shaugnessy does. As for his ability to strike a nerve, I don't see that as a particularly admirable ability. How difficult is it, after all, to incite a mob? But to each their own, and so forth. “This will surprise some people, but I actually think Shaughnessy is a very good columnist in that he’s great at hitting a nerve and is generally pretty fearless about public’s (and his subject’s) reactions.”

Surprised me, certainly. I don’t mind athelete criticism, and certainly would not cede the task of reporting to the individuals themselves, but after years and years of his bile I’ve given up. Haven’t read him in years, and don’t plan to again.

Like yourself, I respect any writer that can take a difficult position and defend it without reservation, but too often for CHB a “difficult position” equates to “ad hominem attacks” and unnecessarily vitriolic commentary. Bob Ryan can make a point - and a pointed one at that - without resorting to the poison pen as Shaugnessy does.

As for his ability to strike a nerve, I don’t see that as a particularly admirable ability. How difficult is it, after all, to incite a mob?

But to each their own, and so forth.

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by: tinisoli http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25577 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:52:11 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25577 Shaughnessy's column about 38pitches actually seemed a lot funnier--and aimed more at the commenters on Schilling's blog rather than the man himself--after I reading some of those comments. There's a lot of ass kissing, yes, but there's also a lot of self-promotion and incipient scamming that does not bode well. Schilling should follow the lead of other popular bloggers and not let his blog turn into a free-for-all bulletin board. Here's one actual example of what's wrong with allowing everyone to post comments: "You are my second favorite player, right behind my childhood hero Ken Griffey Jr, and just ahead of Roger Clemens. Is there any chance you could leave me a ticket to see you pitch in Seattle this summer?" Shaughnessy’s column about 38pitches actually seemed a lot funnier–and aimed more at the commenters on Schilling’s blog rather than the man himself–after I reading some of those comments. There’s a lot of ass kissing, yes, but there’s also a lot of self-promotion and incipient scamming that does not bode well. Schilling should follow the lead of other popular bloggers and not let his blog turn into a free-for-all bulletin board. Here’s one actual example of what’s wrong with allowing everyone to post comments:

“You are my second favorite player, right behind my childhood hero Ken Griffey Jr, and just ahead of Roger Clemens. Is there any chance you could leave me a ticket to see you pitch in Seattle this summer?”

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by: pblanchard http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25565 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:05:04 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/03/30/t-3-and-counting/#comment-25565 CHB's blog is a classic - hurry before its taken down CHB’s blog is a classic - hurry before its taken down

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