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Comments on: Dice-K’s mediocre Saturday start…and this week’s readings http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/ Media, Baseball, Boston, the Red Sox, Music, Literature, and Mnookins Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:43:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.2 by: HFXBOB http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-66347 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:16:50 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-66347 Seth, you criticized this year's signing of Timlin from the outset, and you've been proven totally right. I thought it was an OK sign because it was relatively cheap and 'the more the merrier'. But I've gotten a bit of an education this year on some of the roster rules. If J. C. Romero hadn't posted such bad numbers the Sox would have had a difficult decision there. It certainly looks like Timlin is just about done. Quite a career, though. He was with the first Canadian team to win the Series and the first Sox team to win it in 86. Interesting take on Dice-K's performance Saturday. I agree that strike three call was a bit generous but I've seen pitches in that location called strikes before. I think the Giants biggest beef was that a virtually identical pitch had been called a ball on the same at-bat. Seth, you criticized this year’s signing of Timlin from the outset, and you’ve been proven totally right. I thought it was an OK sign because it was relatively cheap and ‘the more the merrier’. But I’ve gotten a bit of an education this year on some of the roster rules. If J. C. Romero hadn’t posted such bad numbers the Sox would have had a difficult decision there. It certainly looks like Timlin is just about done. Quite a career, though. He was with the first Canadian team to win the Series and the first Sox team to win it in 86.

Interesting take on Dice-K’s performance Saturday. I agree that strike three call was a bit generous but I’ve seen pitches in that location called strikes before. I think the Giants biggest beef was that a virtually identical pitch had been called a ball on the same at-bat.

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by: Bill Pratt http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-65865 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:39:24 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-65865 Is it possible to take credit for traveling the high road and not making a crass remark about someone spending too much time watching Derek Jeter’s ass if you actually mention it? There is no contest when getting into the numbers of Coco vs Jeter, not even fair. Bottom line is that the confidence level between these two players own ability while at bat is like night vs. day. As for the 2 home runs last night... that’s just the blog baseball gods giving me a smack down for being negative. You know, make a negative comment that is true then have the individual perform that night with a career box score AND have your team lose. (really holding back - must not - insert comment - on Timlin - phew!). Therefore, on a positive note..... Coco's confidence must be up after the dingers. So lets hope it lasts longer than it does not and he comes close to the numbers you suggest on the way to helping the team win the division. That Wily Mo sure can run fast after the ball in the outfield! Is it possible to take credit for traveling the high road and not making a crass remark about someone spending too much time watching Derek Jeter’s ass if you actually mention it?

There is no contest when getting into the numbers of Coco vs Jeter, not even fair. Bottom line is that the confidence level between these two players own ability while at bat is like night vs. day. As for the 2 home runs last night… that’s just the blog baseball gods giving me a smack down for being negative. You know, make a negative comment that is true then have the individual perform that night with a career box score AND have your team lose. (really holding back - must not - insert comment - on Timlin - phew!).

Therefore, on a positive note….. Coco’s confidence must be up after the dingers. So lets hope it lasts longer than it does not and he comes close to the numbers you suggest on the way to helping the team win the division.

That Wily Mo sure can run fast after the ball in the outfield!

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by: tinisoli http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-65129 Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:01:29 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-65129 ...And hey, he's got two homers tonight. …And hey, he’s got two homers tonight.

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by: tinisoli http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-65063 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:54:39 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-65063 Re: Coco... Lots of hitters have funny ways of watching the ball go by. Derek Jeter thrusts his ass backwards and straightens his knees on every other pitch, and it's not because he doesn't know where the ball is going. If Coco plays stellar CF, steals 35-40 bags, hits .260, and scores a lot, I think we should be satisfied. Re: Coco…
Lots of hitters have funny ways of watching the ball go by. Derek Jeter thrusts his ass backwards and straightens his knees on every other pitch, and it’s not because he doesn’t know where the ball is going.
If Coco plays stellar CF, steals 35-40 bags, hits .260, and scores a lot, I think we should be satisfied.

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by: CBaker http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-64964 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 22:18:15 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-64964 "* Terry Francona finally seems to have realized that you never want to pitch Mike Timlin in any game in which the Sox are winning or losing by less than five runs..." Thank you for finally pointing this out. I thought for a while there that I was the only one who cringed when Timlin took the mound. Every time he pitches, it seems like he's throwing BP. Batters seem to get a hold of nearly every pitch and hit it hard. Some times it's a hit, and some times, if Timlin's lucky, it's right at someone (or at least within their range). If he's even more lucky, the batter misses the ball. He's not healthy, and he isn't going to get healthy. Why? Because it's not tendonitis. He's just getting old. I hope I'm wrong. “* Terry Francona finally seems to have realized that you never want to pitch Mike Timlin in any game in which the Sox are winning or losing by less than five runs…”

Thank you for finally pointing this out. I thought for a while there that I was the only one who cringed when Timlin took the mound.

Every time he pitches, it seems like he’s throwing BP. Batters seem to get a hold of nearly every pitch and hit it hard. Some times it’s a hit, and some times, if Timlin’s lucky, it’s right at someone (or at least within their range). If he’s even more lucky, the batter misses the ball.

He’s not healthy, and he isn’t going to get healthy. Why? Because it’s not tendonitis. He’s just getting old.

I hope I’m wrong.

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by: Bill Pratt http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-64880 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:37:52 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-64880 "Coco looks much more confident at the plate too" Would this be more or less confident than Wily Mo Pena catching a tailing fly ball about to hand cuff him in the 9th inning of a tie game on the road with the bases loaded, two outs, and a full count when he has already struck out three times AND was picked off first base for the third out in the top of the ninth after getting hit by a pitch. We must not be watching the same Coco at bats. Watch the next game more closely as he moves BOTH his head and shoulders over the top of the ball while it goes into the catcher's mitt on boderline pitches. It is as if he is desperate for watching called balls and hoping to just get walked. The complete opposite of a batter with confidence. Unless of course perfectly executing a failed bunt to try and get any kind of a hit is the stuff of a batter with confidence. “Coco looks much more confident at the plate too”

Would this be more or less confident than Wily Mo Pena catching a tailing fly ball about to hand cuff him in the 9th inning of a tie game on the road with the bases loaded, two outs, and a full count when he has already struck out three times AND was picked off first base for the third out in the top of the ninth after getting hit by a pitch.

We must not be watching the same Coco at bats. Watch the next game more closely as he moves BOTH his head and shoulders over the top of the ball while it goes into the catcher’s mitt on boderline pitches. It is as if he is desperate for watching called balls and hoping to just get walked. The complete opposite of a batter with confidence. Unless of course perfectly executing a failed bunt to try and get any kind of a hit is the stuff of a batter with confidence.

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by: kinshane http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-64688 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:09:44 +0000 http://www.sethmnookin.com/blog/2007/06/18/dice-ks-mediocre-saturday-startand-this-weeks-readings/#comment-64688 Mnookster, you're crazy. No way the Chokees keep playing this kind of ball. I reckon we'll be ~13 games up come All Star Break time, and the Stankees will go on another spending spree to pick up old folks past their prime, to get within 8 games in September. I'm not saying it will be a walk, but the Spankees happened to hit their high point when the Sox hit their low point in the season. Mnookster, you’re crazy. No way the Chokees keep playing this kind of ball. I reckon we’ll be ~13 games up come All Star Break time, and the Stankees will go on another spending spree to pick up old folks past their prime, to get within 8 games in September. I’m not saying it will be a walk, but the Spankees happened to hit their high point when the Sox hit their low point in the season.

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